Solo vs Squads offers extra xp

[u/ADeadlyAlien]

[u/YoImJustAsking]

What am I supposed to do with XP?

[u/OutlawSundown → u/YoImJustAsking]

[u/ValeriaTyterton → u/OutlawSundown]

Lmao BMO reactions are universal

[u/APartyInMyPants → u/YoImJustAsking]

Yeah. There needs to be an incentive. I’m level 75, XP is the absolute last thing I need. Like solo players get an additional random item appear in containers. So even an already looted container has a chance of an item that a trio can’t see.

[u/Profound_mercenary → u/APartyInMyPants]

75+ should get more scrappy loot

[u/OdysseusPrime- → u/YoImJustAsking]

[u/multisync → u/YoImJustAsking]

Credits for security vendors/ projects I guess.

[u/ReaperThugX → u/multisync]

XP is to level up. Cred is for security vendor

[u/hugeappleboulder → u/ReaperThugX]

You get cred based on xp gained too.

[u/ksilverfox → u/hugeappleboulder]

TIL

[u/Ans1ble → u/ksilverfox]

It's horribly low amounts so it's no surprise you didn't know. Doing one cred task will give you more than a handful of raids worth of xp.

[u/NotSoAwfulName → u/ReaperThugX]

Merits for projects are given out based on XP, for the most part utterly redundant as many player complete them with little issue, I supposed if you are late this could help.

[u/ObstructiveWalrus → u/ReaperThugX]

It's too bad Shani's vendor inventory is mostly just junk, most of her stuff is really cheap to craft

[u/ReaperThugX → u/ObstructiveWalrus]

I just buy hatch keys from her

[u/ObstructiveWalrus → u/ReaperThugX]

I used to do this until I realized how easy it is to find advanced electrical components and sensors, now I have nothing to spend my cred on until the next deck comes out

[u/GoSwords]

Glad for anyone who wanted this. Not sure who those people are.

[u/MrBombastic21 → u/GoSwords]

Probably streamers?

And then video with an excited face and the tile HOW I WIPED A LOBBY OF TRIOS IN SPACEPORT

[u/Csub → u/MrBombastic21]

Or the "giving a ghost a BJ" face.

[u/KehlaniUren → u/Csub]

Once you see it you can’t unsee it

[u/VA-EJ25 → u/KehlaniUren]

Classic air dickers

[u/Fox_Hound_Unit → u/Csub]

lol this is the best description for that look I’ve ever heard

[u/Stearman4 → u/MrBombastic21]

Idk anyone who would subject themselves to playing as a solo against squads for just XP

[u/Marsnineteen75 → u/Stearman4]

There are several benefits to this. In Hunt Showdown there are no separate lobbies for solos but loading up as a solo agaist trios or duos is an option. Trios means there are a lot less teams to track meaning that the danger is more concentrated allowing for even safer play in some ways than against solos or duos because now there are more " teams" essentially spread out more. Playing solo it is hard to keep from tripping over another solo player because they are spread out doing their own thing. Most teams are like a single entity and in the general area together.

[u/eBay_Riven_GG → u/Marsnineteen75]

In Hunt you get easier SBMM as a solo, benefits to perks as a solo and you can 1 tap kill a player. 1v3 in Arc Raiders sound miserable even for the best players.

[u/BoiledMilksteakToGo → u/eBay_Riven_GG]

Isn’t there a smaller set amount of players that can spawn into a raid in hunt too? They also don’t have people spawning later into a raid to repopulate either lol not really comparable

[u/eBay_Riven_GG → u/BoiledMilksteakToGo]

Yeah its 12 people per map and no late spawns. The maps are comparable in size too (1km²⁾

[u/RegisterFit1252 → u/Marsnineteen75]

Trios are MUCH louder and way easier to avoid.

I still think there’s so much more they need to do to improve the game. I’m surprised this is what they’ve been spending time and focus on

[u/wutchamafuckit → u/MrBombastic21]

This is exactly what I thought about when I first saw it, embark is definitely catering to the streamer market on this one.

[u/Lev_Kovacs → u/MrBombastic21]

Also me.

I sometimes seek out PVP, but i mostly enjoy the sneaking around / grabbing loot where i find it / carefully extract - playstyle.

In Solos that currently puts me into PvE lobbies where everyone is super passive towards other players. I have to go on regular sealclubbing trips to get out of them.

So honestly, i think that gamenode might just be perfect for me.

[u/RamblinRichard → u/GoSwords]

Me, this sounds like a lot of fun, I never even got to level 70 and I'm running the expedition so the XP is welcome.

[u/printzoftheyak → u/RamblinRichard]

This could also be a rat player’s holy grail as well.

Think about how much loot you leave behind after a team fight, especially late into a game. They could just sit back and let you guys scrap it out, and then be a vulture. Sounds very lucrative and low risk to me.

[u/theologyschmeology → u/printzoftheyak]

Low risk if you're good at being stealthy. Would absolutely also make late joins worth sticking around. Just hunt for all the bodies

[u/GDelectric → u/GoSwords]

Not sure why everyone’s defending it. I mean, I’m having a hard time understanding how they even came up with it. I imagine very few people are going to do it, so that’s cool for those few, but come on.

There’s a ton of pressing issues and more obvious modes the majority of us would want. No free loadout mode being my personal pick. Maybe this is a me problem, but it seems a weird use of company resources to make a game mode like this.

[u/Million_Miles_Smiles → u/GDelectric]

It’s just a weird thing to put front and center. “Hey guys! Look! There’s a new option in the menu!” Yeah not really. I have no idea why they didn’t do high roller lobbies.

[u/PNWeSterling → u/GDelectric]

Resources? Make a "game mode?" You're acting like they sunk millions into this...

It's a matchmaking change, likely involved minimal development effort. You don't like it, cool (don't play it). Them adding this is not going to hurt you in any way; worst case scenario? It's bad/boring/ignored and they simple turn it back off

[u/micheal213 → u/GDelectric]

To be honest with you. It’s an option that should have existed since the game released. Yeah less peopel will do it. But like.. ok? So what.

It’s something that some players would enjoy doing like my. I like to be a rat that hides in the shadows and is neither seen nor heard. And going into trio matches as a solo is the perfect place to do that in. Easier to track where everyone is, players are more condensed due to trios. More loot to scavenge form dead trios. Sneakily shoot them from afar. It can be very fun.

[u/DrLeymen → u/micheal213]

Now imagine if you'd meet someone else as a solo and you start terrorizing 2 or more teams together and make them fight each other. Would be fun as hell!

[u/fireflyascendant → u/DrLeymen]

I used to go solo into duo and trio lobbies in other games. Most of the other games didn't even have persistent loot, so there was no advantage for doing it. It's fun and exciting to have the odds stacked against you.

[u/Swampcardboard]

I guess this will be good for some people? I can't see myself using it though.

[u/Dlo_22]

As a level 75 player, this unfortunately does nothing for me and many of my friends.

Dang

[u/NotSoSubtle1247 → u/Dlo_22]

I'm curious to hear more about the mode, but you're right, XP is the worst possible reward for this.

[u/SidneyHigson → u/NotSoSubtle1247]

Unless xp becomes the new expedition requirement

[u/lilbitlostrn → u/SidneyHigson]

Haha, you need to collect 5 million XP and we've let you know 3 weeks before the expedition

[u/TwoDramaticc → u/lilbitlostrn]

5 million per skill point

[u/Vonauda → u/SidneyHigson]

I'd rather play twice as much solos

[u/EchoFit3185 → u/NotSoSubtle1247]

I don’t think they really could’ve offered more. I feel like they wanted to add the option and simply gave it a small bonus because why not?

[u/Antendu → u/Dlo_22]

The XP boost will be nice if you reset in the next wipe though but, even then, it'll only be a boost after level 40 though. Just sayin' that its not 100% useless for the XP.

I'm a level 75 too, so I feel ya generally though. Just looking for some silver lining is all.

[u/PapaWOK → u/Dlo_22]

They need to make a conversion of XP to some sort of currency to make this game mode even remotely populated outside of streamers. No upside for the solo if they’re maxed out

[u/Alternative_Year1794]

Wanted high risk - high reward lobbies. Like no free loadouts, maybe minimun cred loadout to join, 30k maybe.

Whatever I was imagining defo wasnt this lol

[u/heroyi → u/Alternative_Year1794]

I think a lot of people thought the same here. I was hoping for high roller but this is abysmal 

[u/CappinPeanut → u/Alternative_Year1794]

This will be the complete opposite. Every solo queuing for this will do so with a free kit.

Maybe it gets some of the free kit jockies out of the other game modes? But, I doubt it.

[u/Mainbaze → u/CappinPeanut]

Hell yeah, you and your squad fight head to head with another squad, 2 of your teammates are down but you manage to clutck up and down the last enemy. With adrenaline pumping you go revive your teammate only to be gunned down by a kettle 1 from a solo free-loadouter watching the fight from a bush

[u/Braindead_Crow → u/Alternative_Year1794]

"High table" Raids, you need to enter in with a loadout worth 50,000 credits or more to enter

[u/Maleficent-Ear8475]

Great they made a lobby just for TFUE

[u/Grimsmiley666]

Lmaooo I genuinely hope embark is doing what’s best for the community and the game and not listening to some fuck ass streamers that will abandon this shit soon as marathon or the next popular live service game comes out..this seems like a mode that’s only going to be entertaining to content creators or people who strictly enjoy solo and even THEN I don’t see solo players wanting to boot this mode up as much..

[u/cschoonmaker → u/Grimsmiley666]

I really enjoy playing solo and do it most often because when I play with my son in duos it's a coin toss whether it's all PvP or not. And I won't touch this mode. Feels like a mode that was designed strictly for PvP players and Streamers.

[u/Proud_Health_678]

cheaters heaven

[u/Zenyx_]

Oh no this is the level 40 mode? Embark dropped the ball on this one.

[u/TwoDramaticc → u/Zenyx_]

It can't be "that" mode, or this needs to be one of the options only. This is an insanely shitty mode

[u/Sundance37]

Give me a loot bonus, I don’t need your XP.

[u/banzaizach → u/Sundance37]

Loot needs to be more interesting first.

[u/Pootisman16]

"Will you accept being at a massive disadvantage for little gain?"

Absolutely fucking not.

[u/Mnmsaregood → u/Pootisman16]

And the bonus is XP lol

[u/DaddyDizz_ → u/Pootisman16]

I’ll play it because it sounds fun. For some people fun>gain

[u/Arne-Slut]

I’m sorry but this is straight cheeks.

Even a 3 shit players can easily take out just 1 player.

This is purely for Streamers. Not a single soul asked for this. If you wanted to do this just go into trios and abandon your team.

Here is what they could have done.

Free loadout only mode. This is actually fun because the whole lobby would actually be looting basic materials to craft meds, explosives.

High rollers. 50k+ kit from augment/shield/weapons.

Fero only (or insert another weapon) lock both weapon slots.

[u/BorreVerdoes → u/Arne-Slut]

Hairpin only mode!

[u/damagedPinky → u/BorreVerdoes]

Not gonna lie, “hairpin only” mode already sounds more exiting than this

[u/Previous-Term-282 → u/Arne-Slut]

Ferro Only would be a fun limited time mode IMO.

I agree with high rollers mode, thats what I was hoping for to bring me back.

Free kit mode i have never thought about, actually sounds kinda dope too lol

[u/Aware-Highway-6825 → u/Arne-Slut]

no big streamer is willingly gonna play solos when they could play trios so that rules them out, even the smaller tryhard streamers aren't gonna play this. Doing a 1v3 is possible (with toro only) in trios when they aren't all tunneling you down, I don't think its possible to 1v3 when they are all full hp and pushing you

[u/SubliminallyCorrect]

Lmao okay Embark clearly has its finger on the pulse of the community with this one.

Which community I'm not sure, but it ain't the Arc Raiders community.

Edit: also what's up with Embark saying "We don't want to incentivize PVP"? This certainly looks like a pvp mode.

[u/ferrenberg → u/SubliminallyCorrect]

Some people are saying they made this for the streamer community, but I'm not buying it. I haven't seen a single streamer saying they want to fight a squad while solo, not even the sweaty streamers.

It's amazing someone at Embark thought this was a good idea, and gave us "extra xp" as the cherry on top

[u/corziv]

this is it? I am utterly underwhelmed, especially after their last two patches that hardly did anything. this is a nothing burger for the majority of the community. A challenge mode that you can already do by filling into a trios lobby and running away from your group

[u/cwistopherr69]

Anybody who has a chance at winning solo vs squads will 100% already be max level. Wtf would be the point of an XP boost lol

[u/Kmantheoriginal]

Ok but why? Of all the things to add and work on fixing how did this become priority

Edit: To all the smart asses, please include in your reply if you will play this game mode. Cause I bet 90% of you won’t. So priority = who fucking cares about this. If I have 10 devs and I commit 1 to work no one will use, didn’t I waste their time and yours. Thinking be hard sometimes

[u/UnlitBlunt → u/Kmantheoriginal]

I think you're overestimating how much work this took.

[u/weibull-distribution → u/UnlitBlunt]

It was probably 8 lines of code for the whole "feature".

[u/heroyi → u/Kmantheoriginal]

Idk why people don't understand this. This update would be fine if you wanted to do a small patch in between when the game has covered the basics. But we still have a lot of things that need priority of which many have been waiting patiently

I get some things take time to fix like bug fixes but they could have worked on the other things people have been talking or asking for. Who knows, maybe the patch tomorrow has way more stuff that they didn't announce yet 

[u/PNWeSterling → u/heroyi]

It's essentially a matchmaking tweak.. it likely involved very little time/effort

[u/ChemicalCan531 → u/Kmantheoriginal]

They’ve probably discovered a new bug and implemented it as a new feature holy 😂😂😭😭

[u/JwSocks → u/ChemicalCan531]

“You know how originally we didn’t prioritize matching trios with trios, duos with duos, and solos with solos… what if we made that a feature?”

[u/addandsubtract → u/JwSocks]

Next map condition: spawning above Stella Montis

[u/_Kirian_]

This is lame

[u/AmpleForeskins]

But im 75. I don’t need xp 😒.

[u/devcor → u/AmpleForeskins]

Bot sure why would anyone choose this for XP as incentive if its much easier to earn elsewhere.

[u/deep-skys]

Lame

[u/MisterMeta]

Wow that’s…. Just sad. Of all the things they could add, they added “the sweat mode”

[u/nerveboy]

No thank you.

[u/Nerrs]

My duos gets rocked when spawned into trios, can't say I'll ever try this lol

[u/MacherSvK]

This is lame, was hoping for a custom loadouts only match making.

[u/IntrinsicGiraffe → u/MacherSvK]

Yeah I was hoping for a high roller 50k+ gear lobby type of thing.

[u/cl3arlycanadian → u/IntrinsicGiraffe]

100% this would be way more interesting. You’d see new strats since everyone would be using high end guns & gear. Make the loot pool specialized too, better drop rates etc. high stakes, high rewards.

[u/marniconuke → u/MacherSvK]

I was hoping for literally matchmaking for those that are above level 40+

[u/Faartz]

A game mode no one asked for with rewards no one needs. Bravo

[u/In9e]

Bro we are all lvl 75 wtf are u talking?

[u/kadendurrbie → u/In9e]

Levelling is the easiest damn part of this game. Especially with friendly lobbies… You simply walk around and click E and loot. Zero grind at all.

[u/Lu_131]

wtf!? how useless is this mode and who wanted it? ... big thumbs down for this Embark.. 👎🏻

[u/MaxChomsky]

Fuck that, not in a game where ttk is so low.

[u/cableboiii]

This is so pointless it’s actually insane lol

[u/Xenshizo]

Can anybody genuinely explain why this is causing an uproar? Is it that hard to imagine that some people would genuinely enjoy this completely optional matchmaking mode?

[u/MakeshiftToiletPaper → u/Xenshizo]

People were hoping for a highrollers/no free loadouts queue

[u/Quick-Cockroach5681 → u/MakeshiftToiletPaper]

And it was a really cool idea and completely echoed the idea of the developers to give incentives to players to spend their best equipment. And now we get "this", yes

[u/Damien23123 → u/Quick-Cockroach5681]

This is going to do the opposite of that. Why on earth would I risk my best gear when I’m almost certainly going to get rinsed by the first trio that sees me?

[u/Quick-Cockroach5681 → u/Damien23123]

No, I meant the idea of normal mode, but without the free kit

[u/Damien23123 → u/Quick-Cockroach5681]

Apologies if I wasn’t clear. I know you meant that sort of mode. I was just saying that this solo vs squads mode is effectively the opposite of what you were talking about.

It’s going to make people want to use their best gear even less than the current modes do

[u/Csub → u/Xenshizo]

From what I gathered, it is people being upset with them dedicating dev time and resources to something that will only be used by a very small portion of the playerbase, mostly streamers. Many are disappointed that his is the new matchmaking option they advertised.

I personally really dislike when games cater to streamers but I also know this is a feature in many extraction shooters.

[u/cryingknicksfan → u/Csub]

Yeah at a time when a lot of people are craving new content to be presented with this just feels like a let down

[u/AStolenGoose → u/Xenshizo]

A lot of people were anticipating something that had incentive to run it, and this ain't it.

[u/YoImJustAsking → u/Xenshizo]

I don’t care about that mode, but I don’t get why it only gives more XP and not something else. Most of the people who are going to play 1v3 are already max level, so XP is worthless.

[u/Frosted_Sorbet → u/YoImJustAsking]

Aren't merits earned also tied to XP? An inflated method of farming merits would certainly be appealing to people. I think the biggest thing though is that there are definitely players who are into the idea of playing solo against squads. There are whole genres of videos in BR games already of people do this

[u/ChemicalCan531 → u/Frosted_Sorbet]

merits are useless too

[u/UnlitBlunt → u/ChemicalCan531]

What would be a useful reward? Seems like most things are useless at endgame.

[u/ChemicalCan531 → u/UnlitBlunt]

Yeah cause there’s no endgame, that’s what they should focus on instead of doing random shits, everything seems pointless and they know it cuz we have this wonderful wipe mechanics each 2 months

[u/eweyda → u/YoImJustAsking]

I'm max level. Xp is worthless and 1v3 is probably aids

[u/brogrammer1992 → u/YoImJustAsking]

3s generally has way more player loot in my experience.

[u/SameSign6026 → u/Xenshizo]

Reddit.

[u/postrap → u/SameSign6026]

Lmao, it's not just "Reddit". It's just people in general. Look at the discord, steam forums etc. all the same everywhere.

[u/Linkz98 → u/Xenshizo]

Because this is a 'major' update and the update is 10 minutes of effort and a game mode that 5% of players are going to interact with.

[u/Hackfraysn → u/Linkz98]

This, basically.

[u/unnecessaryaussie83 → u/Linkz98]

I think 5% is generous

[u/bad_timing_bro → u/Xenshizo]

I think a lot of people wanted a kind of “high roller” lobby where there are no free loadouts. You have to have an actual kit. This is just kind of… meh.

[u/ObstructiveWalrus → u/Xenshizo]

Probably because solo vs squads isn't something that's going to appeal to the average player. I'm indifferent to it but I don't think the extra XP is going to be enough of a draw lots of players, especially since you already need to be level 40 to access this. The only benefit to the extra XP is faster leveling for 40-75.

[u/Quick-Cockroach5681 → u/ObstructiveWalrus]

provided that the leveling itself is incredibly fast by default

[u/The_aku_one → u/Xenshizo]

Poorly designed mode that few people are going to play is just a giant let down not to mention that it is poorly thought up. 1v3 squads without a buff for the solo is just suicide simulator it’s not a serious mode.

[u/dustinfoto → u/Xenshizo]

Because it’s a game mode that appeals to a small minority of players. Not exactly exciting for the general player base. It’s not that hard to understand.

[u/garaks_tailor → u/Xenshizo]

I cant wait to hunt squads using a dozen snitch cores, a photo electric cloak, lure traps, and pinging rocketeer across the map

[u/saucysagnus → u/Xenshizo]

Who was asking for this and how does it benefit the majority? I would have like 4 man squads.

[u/BagSilver8116]

Who asked for this?

[u/C0rb0mite]

Any trio with half a brain cell between the three of them can wipe even the most cracked solo under normal conditions. This isn’t COD. Why give us this game mode??

[u/XxMKMPxX]

Congratulations to all 3 people who wanted this.

[u/msuSpartan25]

This is beyond dumb. I don’t see any point in this?

[u/Faartz]

Good to know I don't need to bother

[u/zipp0raid]

How about we fix the seed bank extract and not seeing our teammates eh

[u/ChampaBay2021]

Oof, what the fuck is the purpose of this? This sounds dumb af

Not what anyone wanted, maybe streamers idk. I guess we cater to them now?

[u/Free-Internet1981]

Who asked for this?

[u/ArtGloomy3458]

You guys enjoy though 😅

[u/Rockstar51]

Engame game is so Dead..... they need to add more things immediately.

[u/ImprintVector]

Streamer mode. What a waste time and excitement.

[u/math577 → u/ImprintVector]

Copied straight from Hunt Showdown too

[u/jewham12 → u/math577]

I mean DMZ has had only one queue forever, and there are plenty of (non-streamer) solos that play and thrive, and that game hasn’t had support for years.

[u/_B_R_A_N_E_]

Who is this for? This is like TA in The Finals all over again.

[u/RobotsAreSlaves]

The more i see what developers are doing now the more i ask myself - how they made one of the best games, was it pure luck and coincidence?

[u/ShadonicX7543 → u/RobotsAreSlaves]

They have just been partying and celebrating since launch success and have pre-scheduled silly updates like this while they get lit in Ibiza or something.

[u/kitkatamas88]

[u/GodsToWho]

XP FOR WHAT

[u/RedShadeaux_5]

Useless rewards for a useless game mode

[u/Tommy__want__wingy]

I’ll make the assumption that this isn’t what the PvErs asked for….

[u/jason_w95]

This is bullshit give us something interesting

[u/UltraPharaoh]

Does anyone know how this affects aggression based matchmaking (ABM)? Because I would like to join this game mode to try it out but I don’t want to be put into sweaty solo lobbies after as a result when I spend most of my time just blueprint hunting.

[u/dj3stripes]

So....... why?

[u/Advanced-North3335]

Embark: "How would you like to join a lobby where you're outnumbered, outgunned, and face a certainty of getting shot on sight..."

Me: "Make me an offer..."

Embark: "Best we can do is a boost to XP gain."

HARD PASS

[u/renegade_awakening]

Nobody wants this! For 1. this game is not set up to wipe squads, it's far to hard to drop someone and end them before they get picked back up, And 2. bringing in full kits is too much of a risk for what reward again? Useless xp, absolutely dumb And 3. Any sweat that can wipe a squad is going to want to do it againt the easiest types of players not other pvpers And 4. last but not least WE WANT DEDICATED LOBBIES not a priority system, the absolute worst part of this WHOLE game is constantly running into squads when you load in as a duo, my duo and I have died more to trios than to duos because SURPRISE that duo that you end up in a fight with well that's actually a trio STUPIDEST THING IVE EVER ENCOUNTERED IN GAME

[u/Thiel619]

First L from Arc Raiders.

Exp is literally useless.

[u/Disastrous-Double484 → u/Thiel619]

Yeah this is severely underwhelming

[u/Sea-Sail-2594]

Trash mode

[u/SorryRoof1653]

Embark Defenders in full gear in the comments lol

[u/AshKabosu]

Pardon my ignorance, but who actually gives a shit about XP with the level cap?

[u/AshKabosu → u/AshKabosu]

Give me better goop goddamn it!

[u/AZAWESTIE]

Hahaha.

1. This is already the case in many regions where solos are in duo/trio lobbies.

2. It’s super unfun.

3. XP as a reward means nothing.

[u/Kestrel_T]

These guys tell us: "Waaah, waaah, our game isn't PvP-oriented, that's not the primary goal," and what do they come up with? 1v3? Seriously...

[u/rescue2113]

Incapable devs :)

[u/Sufficient_Steak_839]

I wanted a high roller queue. Lame

[u/_JESSE_JAMES_]

"Silent assassin" - rat

[u/FlyZestyclose2949]

What a worthless feature. 

[u/TheShoobaLord]

…why

[u/ChocolateSeuss]

It feels weird that it’s just for better xp and not for better loot, maybe it needs its own trials type thing where you get tiered rewards for lone wolf PvP?

Edit: this is coming from mainly friendly player, not saying they should incentivize PvP this way necessarily, just don’t feel like xp alone is enough to make me want to play this mode

[u/Mistuhlil]

Embark, as a player who thoroughly enjoys your game. Get your shit together and stop releasing ASS updates. It’s like you’re not even listening to the community.

[u/Mono_Memory]

Streamers won’t be playing this mode!! They all play in groups, so who does this cater to? No one

[u/Livid_Cantaloupe8268]

I think more than half of the community is already max level

[u/RevolutionOrBetrayal]

They need to offer a real endgame loop soon imo and this is not it

[u/EGRedWings23]

I don’t see many people running this mode beyond content creators and try hards. Very underwhelming

[u/Damien23123]

Does anyone actually want this? Aside from XP not being enough of an incentive, how will this even work in this game?

This is my first extraction shooter and I have until now played mostly battle royale games. Solo vs squads in those games tends to work because you have fast movement and a relatively fast TTK that you can use to create opportunities to break the fight down into a series of 1v1’s.

In ARC Raiders the movement is slow, the TTK is slow, and healing is slow. If a trio decides to rush you how on earth are you ever winning that fight?

This is going to incentivise so much more ratting with people sitting in dark corners behind lines of traps. Is this the game they want people to play?

[u/GrandLucidity]

Ah yes just what the people wanted.

Now you can lose your free kit in record time by intentionally matching into trio lobbies as a solo, and get repeatedly 3rd,4th,5th,6th, etc. partied right back to the lobby as you try to loot a bunch of gear that is barely as good as your level 4 grey weapons and green augments that you also probably never use.

I love the game, though it’s really become quite apparent that Embark pivoted from being a looter shooter PvE game to whatever you want to call the current game, without really having a plan on how to follow through beyond 6 months.

[u/Mo9do]

This dev team is just doomed. Great game that’s going to go nowhere for a long time. I’ll be back though

[u/Sea-Sail-2594]

No one will play this shit. Who gives a fuck lol

[u/Rollingthunder182]

lol pass

[u/Inmotion78]

Ofc people react to this, its shit. Why on earth would anybody play this mode for xp, most people already are max level. They could have released something better than this crap, thats what make people angry. Its just mindless devs doing stupid things. Jesus this game sometimes.

[u/ultimate18]

How is this any different from no fill squads?

[u/npc80085 → u/ultimate18]

It literally isn't. Devs are smoking crack

[u/NiceIllustrator]

What am I supposed to do with loot?

[u/dattebayo07]

Thats a no for me. 1v3 is insane

[u/MrBulwark]

So disappointed with this one... like I'm sitting at lvl 75 waiting for wipe and I'm offered more XP lol

[u/platonicgryphon]

I just don't understand the point of this; It might seem neat once or twice but you're at such a massive disadvantage for no gain so it'll be an unused MM option after a couple weeks besides clip farmers. Why did they put the effort into this when there are other more pressing things for the game.

[u/Baxlax]

Everyone in my friend circles are level 75 lol... Why exp..

[u/xRokai]

That's fucking stupid

[u/kolopoi01]

Anyone supporting the 1vs3 queue answer this 4 questions:

1) What is this update fixing? 2) Why do you need it? 3) Who is interested? 4) Does it reward your time?

When you come to the realization it is really just a new game mode aimed for PvP'ers to camp trios as a solo player and try to get loot from it then you will realize how pointless of a change it was.

Biggest issue this game has is that there isnt a place you can avoid free kit spammers doing exactly the above - jumping into a game with hopes of an upgrade. Both PvP'er or PvE'er find free kits as a pest, whether they are taking matriarch parts as a nonhelping free kit or extract camped by them on PvP after you wiped some bodies and ran out of heals.

Their solution (without rationale) was to put the solo pvp'ers in a lobby full of trios. They are bound to have more action and statistically more loot since there will be more corpses on the ground.

The biggest question is, who is benefitting from this? All I can see from this update is that trios will be infested by random free kit solo's waiting for a fight to be done and prey on the remainders.

What incentive does the solo player have to take loot on a 1vs3? Virtually none, it is pretty clear the population that find it fun to take your hard work to a gamble with turbo odds against you is not that huge (only the 10 redditors vs a million of players community). The only way to make this challenge profitable is simply by spamming free kits and getting the loot you can with some EXP on the side for wanting to get killed.

The biggest issue I can foresee is that free kit abuse will skyrocket in PvP Squads, and the incentive of taking loot in Squads will be slowly diminishing because you WILL be camped by soloers looking to upgrade with your hard work and statisically speaking one of them is bound to get your stuff.

I just dont see any logic in this, and I still wonder why the high roller queue has not been added yet at least to fix the issue of free kits vs kit. There are so many things that can be done to fix the matchmaking in steps, yet they chose the one that does not address an issue directly and only opens for more.

[u/Warelllo]

extra xp. yea, I'll pass

[u/TrueParadox88]

Embark you’re missing the easy fan points!

1) Custom saved loadouts
2) inventory management QOL enhancements 3) no free loadout mode (or cheap min to entry)

[u/essteedeenz1]

I honestly was hoping for something more like, having gear requirements, this seems too tedious and promotes rat play as a solo to be effective

[u/FreeSM2014]

This shit is so confusing. The devs should explain the reasoning behind this mode. More exp is not gonna make me play 1v3, the only way i see this work is if XP will be converted into cash after hitting lvl 75.

[u/Pigeondavegames → u/FreeSM2014]

Yep, didn’t they also recently say killing other players isn’t the point of the game - this says different. I don’t really get the point of this mode.

[u/ShadonicX7543 → u/FreeSM2014]

Because they do not want to put any effort into the game right now. They are busy partying still after game release. This is just for the appearance of effort. They've had a skeleton crew working on the game since they went on vacation.

[u/yeahyeah4275]

Can they just fix the trophies already it’s been 3 months useless ass updates one after another

[u/amzkeh]

Does EXP actually matter to most?

I do accept i have a lot of hours, but after maxing twice, i found it was way to quick. In my opinion the required exp per level needs to be re-assessed. Quests and trials should provide exp too.

Especially considering that those players who are willing to go into solo v squad lobbies would most likely already be quite high level if not maxed.

As it stands up till level 40, each level requires an additional 1k exp per level, however once you hit level 40 the increase in required exp slows down to a halt. (Level 50 requires 48k exp but level 75 only requires 50k? Doesn't make sense to me.

EDIT: Not to mention the fact that to even access these lobbies you need to be lvl 40 already? Really don't understand the logic behind this new matchmaking option. A 'no free loadout' or 'high risk' lobby would have benefited a lot more of the playerbase imo.

[u/Opposite-Lobster2470]

I hate it so much when developers spend time making stuff specifically for streamers, there is literally zero demand for this except for the sweaty tryhard clip farmers.

[u/hackers238]

Can they have separate ABMM for this mode?

[u/Wardraugr79]

There should be something more to it. Maybe an integrated hatch key that can be used even during night raids? Maybe 2X trials points (could be helpful for some specific trials like gathering plants or first wave husks since trios aren't really lurking around the outskirts of maps as much). I don't know. I'll probably play this for the shits and giggles but it's not what I expected. Hopefully the new player project thing makes up for it.

[u/gn4rwolf]

Who asked for this? I feel like Duo queues would be a higher priority..

[u/heartbroken_nerd]

So instead of fixing the ridiculous free loadout nonsense meta, they double and triple and quadruple down on it?

Give me one reason why I wouldn't expect most (not all but most) players solo queueing into squad lobbies to be running free loadouts rather than expensive stuff?

[u/mattmillus]

So my reward for getting xp faster than average casual is to be given more xp? Make it make sense

[u/funk_zaddy]

this ain’t it lol