r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/boriswong • 4h ago
Image Alex Pretti’s coworkers take a moment of silence this morning.
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u/EscapeFacebook 3h ago
There is no federal law that says you can't have a gun at a protest.
There is no state law in Minnesota that says you can't have a gun at a protest.
No one asked for his ID, no one asked for his permit, they didnt wait that long.
They disarmed this man by removing his gun from his holster and then executed him.
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u/Soldier_Faerie 3h ago edited 36m ago
Reposting this here for others to save and spread around in case anyone hasn't got these yet, list was not originally compiled by myself, but I will add to it if more stuff comes up! (Note that a couple links aren't working anymore, but the rest should be! If not let me know which aren't, and if you have any replacements/extra links!)
Updated 1/25
Most recent Ice shooting 1/24
-Alex Pretti-
This is murder.
Pink lady Jacket Video https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/5Veytd2H0P
(this one is taken down but there's a link to download at the end)
2nd angle slow-mo https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressiveHQ/s/fBWC7a63Mk
Kristi Noem statement alongside video which shows a gun being dropped at scene by an agent running away https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressiveHQ/s/E9dFYbtEs6
Where's the gun? Video: https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/s/cGvKOx9aZy
Stabilized and enhanced video showing victim was disarmed and an officer panicked https://www.reddit.com/r/MarchAgainstNazis/s/0jxYBCPaAP
Video prior to incident showing victims hand holding phone not gun https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/s/ekHCTApUPO
Ice agent claps after victim's death: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/HEr66OgYkh
Greg Bovino statement https://www.reddit.com/r/Global_News_Hub/s/uDJtCrsV9o
Longer Kristi Noem statement: https://www.reddit.com/r/Global_News_Hub/s/r8XJYa2nfx
Other angles/info:
Victim was perfectly in his rights to carry. https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/s/XhlXRXjlOI
https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Watch/s/zkC0475pfg
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressiveHQ/s/Ffz2muY32e
https://www.reddit.com/r/FedJerk/s/LI27hfjF9w
Timeline https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/24/us/minneapolis-shooting-alex-pretti-timeline.html
Here's the link to directly download it (pink lady video). It seems like better quality than what gets uploaded https://files.catbox.moe/sp296e.mp4
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u/CaptainHubble 3h ago edited 1h ago
Insane. You can basically recreate a 360° VR experience from all the footage that's out there. There isn't any room left to argue on this.
But than again, we also have crystal clear snippets of the whole epstein thing. And still nothing has happened.
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u/HunBunYum 2h ago
Omg, right. There’s no room left to argue, but watch arguments & excuses be made.
Absolutely infuriating.
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u/CaptainHubble 2h ago
These days you can't really believe anything where there is just one recording available of. But when in such a short time there are +3 different angles made with different devices, different filming "styles" and qualities, and they all overlay perfectly, you have proper proof.
In that country proof is currently worthless it seems tho. Good luck.
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u/skip_over 1h ago
This is why it is important for people to be out there filming. If they weren’t, this would have been swept under the rug.
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u/Dubbinchris 1h ago
I want to see HIS cell phone footage. I’m sure it’s going to be “accidentally” destroyed despite court orders not to.
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u/Istarien 1h ago
ICE typically steals devices, wedding rings, ID, and cold weather gear from their detainees and releases them without returning any of this property. I have to imagine they won't be returning any of Alex's effects to his family. We'll never see what he filmed.
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u/ChanglingBlake 2h ago
Every ICE member there, and every member of this administration who supported it should be charged with 1st degree.
That was not justice.
That was not immigration control.
That was straight up power tripping, small dicked, small minded assholes committing murder on government payroll and orders.
If there is a hell, I hope a new level of suffering is created for the people responsible.
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u/YoungestDonkey 3h ago
Seconds before, his killer assaulted a woman who was walking away from him, then another woman by shoving her to the ground on slippery pavement, then assaulted this gentleman who instinctively tried to protect her and help her up, using pepper spray, puling him off, throwing him to the ground and shooting him dead.
And then, the organization for which the victim and these mourners work blamed the situation on the state for not cooperating with federal thugs.
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u/I_Fail_At_Life444 1h ago
Even worse they went on TV and called him a domestic terrorist before his body was cold.
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u/Soldier_Faerie 2h ago
Sickening. There are no words strong enough to describe how horrific this is.
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u/ImgurScaramucci 1h ago
All the pro ICE arguments about this are dishonest red herrings. Every single Even if Alex approached ICE agents with violent intent and punched them in the face, shooting him after he was disarmed and his hands were on the ground is still murder.
The fact he didn't even do anything wrong and he was actually trying to deescalate the situation just makes this worse.
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u/jn29 3h ago
He wasn't even at a protest. He was living life when ICE agents descended.
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u/tt12345x 1h ago edited 1h ago
THANK YOU. I get that it comes from a good place but he was NOT at a protest, Pretti was a legal observer doing what nurses do best: protecting and helping others.
Everyone here in MN with a whistle is not “protesting.” They’re warning their fucking neighbors that murderous and untrained thugs of the state are in close proximity.
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u/TedTheGreek_Atheos 3h ago edited 3h ago
He was nowhere near them until that thug grabbed the lady and litteraly dragged her across the street and threw her down in front of him.
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u/ImgurScaramucci 1h ago
They keep saying he approached them. In the longer video the ICE weren't even in the picture in the beginning. Alex barely moved from his position when the video started.
ICE just showed up and a few seconds later he was dead.
This is madness.
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u/bigfootsdemise 37m ago
ICE approached him and then shoved him. They are trained to escalate. It’s insane.
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u/SoochSooch 2h ago
He was minding his own business when ICE showed up and started randomly attacking people.
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u/rileyjw90 1h ago
Yes. Even the left continues to push this narrative that he was at a protest. While you’re all right that you can have a gun at a protest, THIS WAS NOT A PROTEST. He was literally just existing on a Saturday morning. He didn’t bring a gun to a protest. He was in the area when ICE showed up. People blew their ICE whistles to alert citizens they were in the area. He pulled out his phone to film like so many others did. And he was killed for it.
For all the videos of this incident, does anyone see any large groups of people with signs? There are none because this wasn’t a protest. Even the DHS initially said ICE was in the area to search for a “violent criminal” but later changed the narrative to say it was a protest.
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u/CriticalSecurity8742 2h ago edited 1h ago
Kyle Rittenhouse was glorified by republicans for bringing a gun to a protest and killing someone. But if it’s someone protesting tyranny from a republican regime, and they aren’t even holding it, they’re suddenly a terrorist.
THIS IS INSANE
MAGA: if you’re gonna downvote facts, don’t be a coward. Defend your position. I didn’t serve my country for 15+ years in Eastern Europe intelligence for you to destroy lives.
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u/driveonacid 3h ago
Can you imagine being one of those coworkers?! If one of my coworkers was executed by ICE this weekend, I'd be in a fucking rage. I can't imagine having to go do the most compassionate job in the world after that.
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u/CandysaurusRex 3h ago
I can because I was. I worked at the Minneapolis VA as a Medical Support Assistant until December of 2022, occasionally covering SICU/MICU. I can't begin to describe how surreal this is. I know that hallway too well-- I've stood for Walks of Honor there myself. My heart breaks for ICU/3K staff. I didn't know him personally, but I've spoken to people who did and they remember his kindness, strength and genuine compassion. There no doubt that he's deeply missed. What a terrible loss.
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u/Risley 2h ago
And then to hear this administration call him a domestic terrorist Hell bent on killing law enforcement
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u/FilledwithTegridy 1h ago
This is what really gets me. I cant imagine knowing him loving him and then the fucking gouls responsible for it all are calling him a domestic terrorist. Its unconscionable!
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u/3sadclowns 3h ago
On top of everything, a massive media move to shovel propaganda that your coworker was a violent terrorist??? I’d be inconsolable.
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u/WildMoonChild0129 2h ago
I cant imagine the heart break they feel and the fuckin rage. He was their coworker, their fuckin friend, and in his last moments he still just wanted to do right for others. He was murdered for showing compassion, his job was to help others and he did that to his last breath
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u/Few-Indication3478 3h ago
That’s America for you. They don’t have time to go into a rage. They need to show up to support and care for the people in their community that need them, and to feed themselves and their families. Meanwhile, at the top….
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u/Antique_Poet_4204 1h ago
And, care for people who very well may have voted the deranged orange dictator into office. I’d have empathy burnout like crazy. I give these nurses and caretakers so much credit
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u/def_noct_bored 4h ago
This is what you would see after someone donated their organs to save another life. Pretti chose a career to save others, and lost it trying to defend another. This image speaks so loud over the silence. His and Good's death will not be in vain.
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u/bigdaddyt2 3h ago
I know they can’t but imagine they all walked out for an hour
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u/Ntroepy 3h ago
Actually, they’re calling for a nationwide nurses strike on January 30th to protest Alex’s murder.
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u/secretlypsycho 3h ago
The strike is also being asked of all people nationwide to strike on Jan 30th. Students from the university in MN released a statement to the news. Not just nurses. So even if nurses can’t, the people can!
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u/LossyP 2h ago
I unfortunately “know” (haven’t spoken in years) a couple of hardcore maga nurses. It blows my mind how many there are in the medical field
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u/lie_doe_cane 3h ago
Solidarity. Is the best we can do, pots and pans? We should all strike this Friday.
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u/sannya1803 4h ago
The gent who buried his face in his hands gets me. Never thought I would cry over the news but here we are.
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u/Sad_Accountant_1784 4h ago
ER nurse here and i immediately had the same response to the nurse in the dark blue scrubs. this looks very much like the way we line up for organ donor Honor Walks on their way to the OR to harvest organs. the way his face is buried in his hands speaks volumes about grief and sadness.
i don’t know how i would survive a coworkers murder as these beautiful people are being forced to endure. we see so much collective trauma that there already exists a bond between nurses in high-trauma units; to lose one in this manner would be utterly devastating and provoke rage, deep down rage.
godspeed, america. i don’t know what else to say, I’m so….sad.
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u/ICU-CCRN 3h ago
This really hit home to me too as an ICU nurse. And yeah, definitely reminds me of a donor honor walk too. After all the crap we went through during Covid as healthcare workers, and now this… I’m so sick inside I can’t stand it.
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u/Sguru1 3h ago
Can you imagine. Just being short one night and everyone knowing it’s cause your colleague was executed on video in public. The day time charge nurse calling the house supe “can you float anyone to the unit tonight we’re short after what happened to Alex”. I don’t know how I’d even be able to think clearly that shift.
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u/Weird-Girl-675 3h ago
And the government sullying his name 😞
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u/Tempyteacup 3h ago
And it sounds like he was just an absolute gem of a human being. His final words were “are you okay?”. The worst of us are murdering the best of us with impunity. We must make this an inflection point.
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u/KnightsOfREM 3h ago
A wise man once said, "If we don't take action now, we'll settle for nothing later."
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u/DeathWorship 2h ago
Their last words have been “I’m not mad at you, dude” and “are you ok?”
The last things they got were “fucking bitch” and applause at the execution.
Says a whole lot about what kind of people we’re losing and what kind of people we’ve given lethal impunity to.
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u/ur_rad_dad 2h ago
We simply are not angry enough as a society about this.
This hasn’t been normal for a very long time.
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u/feed_meknowledge 2h ago
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u/Severe_Eagle2102 2h ago
The world is horrified at what is happening in America. The entire face of the earth is unified in disbelief at the horror story unfolding there. The man, who's name shall never be spoken in dignified company ever again, and his family will only ever be remembered in the same context, depth and breadth as Hitler. A perpetrator of vile social destruction, economic devastation and human suffering all to feed his own ego and greed.
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u/RobotArtichoke 3h ago
This has to be a turning point in the support for this administration. I can’t see it any other way.
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u/JUSTIN102201 3h ago
Sadly it won’t be. People are brainwashed and hate more than they’re willing to love
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u/TheNationDan 3h ago
Don’t give in. You keep goin, til you can’t no more.
(You may be a bot, and if that’s the case, then hopefully someone reading this will see)
Keep talking about it. Use this senseless execution as a way to check in on the people around you. Give grace to those who are finally seeing. And take note of your time with the ones who are not.
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u/RobotArtichoke 3h ago
I recall Sandy Hook. I hate to say that I think you’re right. I wish you weren’t.
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u/kangaroolifestyle 3h ago
In ending his life, the system also ended the care he would have delivered to thousands. An execution that erased years of healing and sentenced countless patients to go without him.
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u/drawkward101 3h ago
Thank you for what you do. <3 Keep heart, stay strong, be well. I don't know you, but as one human to another, I love you and I hope you and your family and friends and coworkers all stay safe.
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u/Single_Wrap_74 3h ago
If people like you didn’t do what you do my mom would be dead right now. The state of the world is fucked but your work is vitally important.
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u/Punkpallas 3h ago
I legitimately do not know how I'd react to a coworker being so brutually murdered, especially when you are trained to preserve, extend, and save lives like you guys are. You spend so much of your life with your coworkers that they're like a second family, dysfunctional or not. It's be like losing a family member to an extent.
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u/MaterialAd990 3h ago
The part of his face that isn't covered up is red. He's absolutely devastated. So is everyone else in the hallway. Alex was loved and will be missed.
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u/Itsyaboibrett 3h ago
when I heard Renee Good’s final words ‘It’s okay dude, I’m not mad at you.’ I couldn’t hold it together. They killed all Good and Pretti people. If I was writing a book i’d call it cliche
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u/flyingfoxtrot_ 3h ago
I often think that if this was a novel, the symbolism would be considered very heavy-handed, possibly too much so. I can't believe this is real.
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u/modmosrad6 3h ago
They literally killed the good and, making allowances for spelling, the pretty.
I'd give up on such a book and ask if the author was a fucking toddler.
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u/flyingfoxtrot_ 3h ago
Something cold and dangerous took the good and the pretty? If this was fiction I'd be rolling my eyes so hard. But it's real.
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u/LongjumpingDebt4154 3h ago
Agree. For the last decade I’ve been saying if this were a fictional novel we’d have put it down shortly after opening it for being written so poorly. This time period has been so utterly stupid, the future generations will shake us into eternity.
I want out of this book.
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u/LVuittonColostomyBag 3h ago
Pretti’s last words reportedly were “don’t touch her!” and then to the woman he was helping, “are you okay?”
We’re tired in Minneapolis, keep us all in your thoughts.
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u/LongjumpingDebt4154 3h ago
Hang in there. We are all so proud of you & are routing hard for you. We were hit hard here in Chicago, but each invasion has grown progressively worse. I remember how exhausting it felt… take breaks when you can. This will not last forever. We will come through this stronger. Lean on your fellow neighbors & countrymen. We are thinking & praying for you constantly.
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u/Party-Interview7464 3h ago
I can’t stop thinking about all their last words. “I’m not mad at you” and “are you OK?” Meanwhile the first words/actions after their last words were “fucking bitch” and that man clapping after they shot Alex.
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u/Itsyaboibrett 3h ago
the distinction is so stark. the fact that anyone still says that any part of this is alright astonishes me.
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u/LongjumpingDebt4154 3h ago
Their last words have a, ‘Forgive them father, they know not what they do’ ring to it.
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u/Hillbilly_Boozer 3h ago
The lady leaning against the pillar with her glasses in hand and wiping her eyes too. There's so much pain in this photo.
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u/Ozone220 3h ago
I similarly never thought I could cry over news, normally that kind of thing just doesn't get me in a way that I physically express. But god damn if I didn't shed a tear for those images of that 5 year old being detained by ICE.
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u/flowerytrash 4h ago
i cried for the first time at news when i saw that video..had to go hug my partner and tell her i love her. i worry for everyone decent in this country…
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u/ArianasDonuts 3h ago
It’s just so fucking sad. Alex and Renee both seemed like wonderful people. They were so completely undeserving of what happened to them. The world lost two good people and, instead of acknowledging the tragedy and demanding justice, our government is smearing them as domestic terrorists and trying to protect the people who murdered them. It’s horrible and deeply unfair and fucking infuriating.
I want to do something but, realistically, what can I do besides donate? I’m one single person living over a thousand miles away. I feel like there’s nothing I can do but watch in horror as it happens again and cry.
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u/Punkpallas 3h ago
Shit, Renee's last words were that she had no beef with him. She was relaxed and smiling in the face of people she likely knew were angry and just looking for opportunities to hurt people. Definitely a better person than everyone involved all the way up to the White House.
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u/ArianasDonuts 3h ago
Renee and Alex’s last words (respectively) were, “I’m not mad at you,” and, “Are you okay?” I don’t know why but that just hurts my heart even more.
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u/number676766 Interested 3h ago
I didn't know him. But on Saturday night, all over the Twin Cities, neighbors gathered together in subzero temperatures on street corners for small candlelight vigils to sing songs, share our feelings, and hold a moment of silence. Plenty of tears shed all over the cities.
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u/Winter_Tone_4343 4h ago
The woman in the corner wiping away tears.
Fuck ice and magats
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u/Opposite_Math_2699 4h ago
This shouldn’t be happening, this isn’t okay, this isn’t normal.
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u/P0werFighter 4h ago
It's been a while things are not okay in the US. This is just a step further in hell.
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u/hooberton 3h ago
“Are you OK?”
His last words should be the rallying cry for all of us that value our democracy.
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u/1OO1OO1S0S 3h ago
Answer "No. We are not ok"
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u/cruelhumor 3h ago
Martyr: a person who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause
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u/artguydeluxe 3h ago
And Renee Good’s last words were “I’m not mad at you.”
George Floyd’s were “I can’t breathe.”
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u/NYGiants181 3h ago
Were those his last words?
Jesus Christ.
Where did you see that?
Heartbreaking
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u/Gloomy_Industry8841 3h ago edited 1h ago
It was what he said to the lady he tried to help before he was shot. 💔💔💔💔💔💔
Edit: context.
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u/ronswanson11 3h ago
What hurts the most is the 2 citizens killed were clearly very good people with a good heart. Our country is killing the best of us.
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u/Drezroth 1h ago
Makes me think of George Carlin in his 2005 special. "Here's an interesting form of murder we came up with: assassination. You know what's interesting about assassination? Well, not only does it change those popularity polls in a big fucking hurry, but it's also interesting to notice who it is we assassinate. Did you ever notice who it is? Stop to think who it is we kill? It's always people who've told us to live together in harmony and try to love one another. Jesus, Gandhi, Lincoln, John Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Medgar Evers, Malcolm X, John Lennon, they all said, "Try to live together peacefully." BAM! Right in the fucking head. Apparently we're not ready for that."
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u/Fit_Bag1607 3h ago
This needs to gain traction, a wonderful way to honor him now that this administration has murdered him.
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u/PeeCeeJunior 3h ago
For me, our country stopped being ok after Sandy Hook. I’m sure it went to shit for others before that. It’s been downhill for awhile.
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u/under_the_c 3h ago
Sandy Hook was the last time I unironically believed that this would finally be the thing that wakes people up and finally changes things.
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u/ConsciousPatroller 3h ago
Yeah, just because there was a small period of "normalcy" following the lynchings of the 50s, the imperialism of the 60s, the oppression of the 70s, doesn't mean things were "okay". This has been building up for decades at this point, a very coherent and organized plan to get the US to where it is. And the ones behind the plan are reaping the benefits today, to everyone else's expense.
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u/Caratteraccio1 3h ago
Structural issues predate recent headlines, inequality and power consolidation didn’t start overnight, and people ignoring history only lets the same cycles repeat with worse outcomes.
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u/rugger87 3h ago
How ever could we have known that this person who bankrupts and ruins everything he touches would destroy this country?
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u/Caratteraccio1 3h ago
It’s horrifying how quickly disbelief turned into resigned acceptance of tragedy.
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u/Gerald-of-Riverdale 4h ago
And im tired of people trying to debate these last two shootings. This isnt foreign policy, we cant debate this. It is clear as day ICE murdering people and if you even slightly believe that's debatable then the propaganda is working on you.
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u/fondledbydolphins 4h ago
This actually is normal. It's normal human behavior in that when a society stops keeping justice, morals, and integrity in mind.... this behavior normally occurs.
People need to understand that being "good" is not a self-fulfilling cycle. It takes constant, mindful, vigilant effort.
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u/ZolotoGold 4h ago edited 3h ago
This is the key point.
US society has been incredibly complacent, thinking that every freedom they enjoy has already been won, and can never be taken away.
Where the truth is that freedom, democracy, tolerance, workers rights and equality take constant work to maintain.
There will always be a powerful cabal of vested interests, who need to be actively faught, that seek to profit from dragging us back, oppressing, imprisoning, enslaving and murdering us.
Whats more, when you let it slip, you allow the cabal to take a foothold, and it needs even more action to stop. Their current foothold is growing, and needs to be rooted out with the same agency they're showing in installing it.
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u/Taraxian 3h ago
Listen to me -- all of you out there! You were told by this man -- your hero -- that America is the greatest country in the world!
He told you that Americans were the greatest people -- that America could be refined like silver, could have the impurities hammered out of it, and shine more brightly! He went on about how precious America was -- how you needed to make sure it remained great! And he told you anything was justified to preserve that great treasure, that pearl of great price that is America!
Well, I say America is nothing!! Without its ideals -- its commitment to the freedom of all men, America is a piece of trash!
A nation is nothing! A flag is a piece of cloth! I fought Adolf Hitler not because America was great, but because it was fragile! I knew that liberty could be snuffed out here as in Nazi Germany! As a people, we were no different than them! When I returned, I saw that you nearly did turn American into nothing!
And the only reason you're not less then nothing -- -- is that it's still possible for you to bring freedom back to America!
-- Peter Gillis, What If? #44 ("What If Captain America Were Revived Today?"), January 17, 1984
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u/stopbeingaturddamnit 3h ago
Yep. Democracy is like being on a boat in a river inching toward the waterfall. You have to keep paddling or you'll go over. Too many people just riding and not enough people picking up a fucking paddle and rowing.
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u/Animefan96 3h ago
I heard somebody say that keeping a democracy is like maintaining a garden. People benefit from having a garden same as having a democracy, but if you stop caring for it you lose it.
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u/ArianasDonuts 3h ago
I always think of this quote from Obama:
“Now, presume there was a ballroom here in Vienna in the late 1920s or ’30s that looked and seemed as if it, filled with the music and art and literature that was emerging, would continue into perpetuity. And then 60 million people died. An entire world was plunged into chaos. So you got to pay attention – and vote.
“You have to tend to this garden of democracy, otherwise things can fall apart fairly quickly. And we’ve seen societies where that happens.”
Americans have gotten too complacent and I’m not even sure most understand what a precarious position we’re in right now.
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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 3h ago
"all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing”
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u/Still-Individual5793 4h ago
Why does every post on Reddit about the current news have a top rated comment that says "this shit sucks" and then a "well ackshually" response that misses the entire point of what the original person said? Like obviously the person you're responding to was talking about the shooting, not the moment of silence.
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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut 3h ago
Come back in a week and take a look at what accounts have been deleted by bots.
"Someone" is trying to redirect people.
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u/LPNMP 3h ago
I have a theory. It is beyond bizarre how much written word is used in modern times. It has never, ever been such a prevalent form of communication like this.
I think as social media and internet etiquette developed, we grew some quirks along the way. Like always correcting each other. Grammar nazis and gotchyas. Perhaps more welcome in an academic setting, not casual correspondence. This gets people to pepper their words with messages to head off critics. Things like Joe Scott has mentioned before.
Then about 10 years ago, it became very common to toss out the good faith in discussions. It became more common to talk to people whose intent was not honesty or to maintain a common level of logic and rationality. I noticed even my own words began to come from a place of assuming the worst from dealing with so many bad faith comments.
I think those two factors have made talking online... different. What a time to be illiterate though.
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u/makes-fun-of-incels 3h ago
Lots of annoying one-uppers. tHiS iSn’t nOrmaL 🤓 no fucking shit
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u/ilikedota5 4h ago
This is what Hobbes referred to when he said the state of nature is "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."
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u/Critical-Exit1655 4h ago
They murdered an example of the best of us, but it won’t in vain.
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u/LordWemby 4h ago
He was murdered with his literal final act being helping someone.
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u/According_Elephant75 3h ago
Ugh imagine the poor woman he was trying to help. The nightmares she must have. My heart breaks for her too
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u/LordWemby 3h ago
Renee Good was murdered in front of her loved one too.
People around will feel enormous amounts of undeserved guilt. Now they’re trying to say that people blowing whistles “confused” ICE which is dumb garbage, but then people who were actually blowing their whistles while these murders happened might be feeling some type of guilt, even as they shouldn’t. They just want you to think you caused it.
It’s all so very insidious.
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u/sobrique 2h ago
I have been confused many times in my life. I've never murdered someone as a result.
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u/FeistyAsaGoat 3h ago
Not just that. You see him impulsively jumping to aid when he saw her fall. His knee jerk reaction was to help. It just makes it all so much worse.
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u/prailock 3h ago
Final words caught on camera after helping a woman who was attacked were "Are you ok?"
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u/MiKeMcDnet 4h ago
Bro went out like a hero in my book.
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u/No_Structure_9283 3h ago
For real. He had an honorable death. I hold him in such high regard. May the name Pretti serve as an example for others.
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u/goddessdragonness 4h ago
A saint. He was martyred. And Renee Good.
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u/LordWemby 3h ago
Something too about their names being Good and Pretti.
I’m not being glib. It just lends itself to future stories being told.
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u/goddessdragonness 3h ago
It reminds me of the beginning of the recession when Johnny Cash, Steve Jobs, and Bob Hope all died around the same time. And people were like, yeah, all out of cash, jobs, and hope.
Fascism is now killing what is good and beautiful (synonymous with pretty).
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u/soniq__ 4h ago
if maga could actually read, maybe they could make the connection that Jesus died by the hand of the government too. But nah they just use Christianity as a weapon and don't really believe any of it, they just want to piss off liberals or murder them
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u/Battle-Common 4h ago edited 4h ago
I'm worried that if it keeps happening, it'll turn out exactly like school shootings where it happens so often that the nation collectively shrugs its shoulders and says it is what it is.
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u/Antique_reader 4h ago
That may be true for the rest of the U.S. but I learned a lot from Minnesotans living there for a few years. You guys never let your own good people suffer for no reason. This is so wrong and debilitatingly sad but I feel that it will be a turning point from now on. I have high hopes this is not the new normal.
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u/RoundMammoth2947 3h ago
Maybe in these other stupid ass shitty states but the Minnesota I know is fucking pissed. We are being targeted because we have been to get fired up. THEY want Minnesota to go wild.
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u/Macabre_Meditation 3h ago
I am a man that works at a VA in nursing in the same state. This really hit home.
In nursing you are such a team. Most people in nursing are naturally empathetic people and this is going to be very hard for them. I really feel for them, I can’t imagine how surreal and terrible this must feel.
My heart goes out to them, to his family, and to all of us wondering how someone could be so evil and heartless.
We are SO divided - you have people on the republican side cheering this on, saying he deserved it . So fucking cruel and out of touch with reality it’s truly shocking. His last moments were helping others and it cost him his life.
So tragic. Remember there is love out there and love will always win in the end.
Be kind to each other
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u/xladygodiva 3h ago
As a little girl in The Netherlands I looked up to the USA. How things have changed so much in the last 26 years. To all my good American friends, the ones fighting (actively or silently), the people keeping your communities strong. My heart goes out to you.
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u/Several-Age1984 3h ago
All I can say is don't ever be complacent with your country or your leaders. Liberty, Fairness and Justice is something you must fight for everyday, even when it seems like things are going great. If you lose sight of that even for a second, things go downhill so fast.
I still look with admiration at many European countries as a beacon of hope. I hope you all can keep your light burning despite the failures of our country.
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u/somethingrandom7386 4h ago
Murdered in cold blood by masked men terrorizing our communities.
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u/HugeLeaves 4h ago
And then made to look like a villain by THE GOVERNMENT.
America truly is in the darkest timeline right now
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u/MousseHuge8339 3h ago
We're going down the same path Germany did in the 1930s and still too many people refuse to see this. This isn't about stupid singing "YMCA" hype parties and "we'll own those libs" anymore; we are at government sponsored street murder now.
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u/mortyj0024 3h ago
But it’s better than having an educated woman with a weird laugh as president /s.
Have mercy on us all. We are in for some dark times.
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u/Taint__Paint 4h ago
While literally assisting someone who was just thrown to the ground and pepper sprayed by ICE. His final acts were helping protect and save lives. Alex Pretti was more American than all of those thugs combined
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u/Formal-Attention9712 3h ago
Every time I think “there’s no way they can defend this” the MAGA cult never ceases to amaze.
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u/Proof_Bumblebee_9664 3h ago
In other words, ICE has at least tripled the murder rate in Minneapolis.
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u/ThePensiveE 4h ago
Be careful. Don't help a woman in public or MAGA will murder you.
They won't blink an eye if you abuse a woman in public though.
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u/lickingFrogs4Fun 3h ago
They won't blink an eye if you abuse a woman in public though.
The only reason he was helping the woman is because ICE was publicly abusing her. They won't just not blink, they'll fucking clap.
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u/ElegantEchoes 3h ago
They'd give you a standing ovation were you to do that, before reminding you how much they hate their wives.
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u/No-Profession-208 3h ago
Anyone looking at that photo and thinking anything other than how horrifically sad the entire situation is after yet another innocent person losing their life should be ashamed of themselves.
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u/YourDearOldMeeMaw 3h ago
he didnt lose his life, he was executed. normally im not one to split hairs over semantics, but I think its pretty important that we dont soften what happened when talking about about this
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u/VKo18 3h ago
It is devastating to witness this. I’m overwhelmed by a sense of helplessness and my inability to change the situation. By what authority does ICE soldiers have the right to take a human life? America is transforming into the very thing it once claimed to despise.
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u/currentlyRedacted 3h ago
I am appalled that VA clinics around the nation aren’t flying their flags at half. Fuck these monsters
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u/fiestyrosiekitten 3h ago
When I read the news, I cried as a human who has empathy to know this was wrong.
How do you work with a hole in your heart? How do you tell the patients that were in his care, or their family, why they have a new nurse today? Maybe they already knew but hoped it wasn't true. How do you look at your peers and tell them?
His last words will stay with me.
' Are you okay?' Becsuse even in crisis and pain, a nurse seeks to reassure others.
This man was murdered. As a fellow nurse, I cried for this man and his team. I cried for the loss in our already imperiled profession (though we no long are professionals). I cried for a team that will eventually have to allow someone else into the spot that Alex filled.
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u/TheRedCuddler 2h ago
Another nurse here checking in. Alex looks like a countless number of my friends and coworkers. Renee Good's murder shocked me, but Alex's murder has shaken me to my core. My coworkers and I have also held a moment of silence for Alex. We must stand up to this regime in his honor. May God's love bring his family comfort during this dark time.
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u/whisky_woman23 2h ago
My mom was an ICU nurse. He was literally making sure that lady was okay. The caring part of him never stopped off duty, and it's not just being Minnesota nice. He was outright murdered and it is a great loss to the VA community. This needs to end, and his death should not be in vain. I hope it's a full wake-up call across the country to resist the fascist regime RIP
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u/LaviishLily 3h ago
Guy was a model citizen and he died simply helping an elderly lady… FUCK ICE
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u/Another2Coast 2h ago
Anyone who says "all Americans are MAGA assholes" needs to see this as a reference. The Magats are loud, but there are a lot of normal, caring people too.
The situation is heartbreaking.
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u/Moist-Astronaut-8734 3h ago
I hope the pig who shot him is executed
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u/Kind-Feeling2490 3h ago
I hope he gets metastatic bone cancer and denied all pain medication. Then Hell can collect that POS.
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u/AccomplishedWish3033 3h ago
metastatic bone cancer
No, something that’ll lead to a bowel obstruction where he vomits up his own feces and aspirates it. Make him appreciate all the work that nurses and healthcare workers do.
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u/lilhippie89 3h ago
It is absolutely devastating that such an incredible and caring man was taken by the psychopaths terrorizing the streets. My friends and I in Canada were heart broken when the videos started circulating the news. We extend our condolences to everyone that is affected by what happened. 💐
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u/jmbolton 3h ago
Reminder; that piece of shit Bovino said in plain English on CNN “the only victims here are the law enforcement officers” and that “law enforcement doesn’t assault anyone”
They don’t think of us as humans - only targets and obstructions.
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u/krazat 3h ago
Aslo, what are they victims of? “Being run over with a car by a woman not even close to them?” “Fearing for their life’s when they OUTNUMBER AND OUTGUN A DEFENCELESS MAN BEING PINNED DOWN ON THE GROUND?”
How can they lie in the faces of the people and they eat that up??
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command...” (1984, Orwell)
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u/e2ek1el79 4h ago
Americans need to figure their shit out NOW this is not right. They are murdering citizens in plain daylight with absolutely no repercussions. Signed scared Canadian.
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u/Pristine_Direction79 4h ago
If Alex Pretti doesn't show you that the average American isn't for this and doesn't support it then I don't know what to tell you. It's us they're murdering dude.
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u/beaco 3h ago
This is gut wrenching to look at. As a fellow nurse my heart is broken for all his friends, family and coworkers. You can tell he was a man who made a positive impact on so many people, even now he is around the world.
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u/harpie19 2h ago
Seattle VA held a moment of silence today for Alex.
My blood boils that one of my fellow nurses was murdered in cold blood. It makes me ashamed to be a federal employee, but I refuse to be pushed out or quit and hold the line. The more good people in the federal system the better.
Rest in peace Alex Pretti, Renne Good, and anyone else whose innocent lives were stolen by ICE and this administration.
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u/terrorrier 2h ago
People like him are the actual public servants. He spent his time keeping critically ill veterans alive and comfortable. Couldn’t be less deserving of such violence from his own government.
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u/Personal_Ad_4948 3h ago
It would be awesome if every doctor and nurse in the country just refused to treat ICE agents for anything.
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u/Dry-Bird4471 2h ago
As a veteran this kills me. My VA nurses have done more for me than anyone in the current administration ever has. It’s one of the lowest paying and difficult posts in healthcare, especially this year with all the support staff being cut. They are truly heroes. RIP Alex. You will never be forgotten by me, and that’s a promise.
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u/ParcelPosted 2h ago
There are people that, just by existing, bring more to the rest of us. From everything I have seen or read he was one of them.
Heartbroken for those that knew and loved him. This has changed all of us, and it is not ok.
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u/Stop_The_Crazy 2h ago
Meanwhile, Shitler just downgraded their field to 'non-professional'.
We would have been better off with Charles Manson as president. He was much more qualified with only 9 felonies to his credit.
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u/Guillotines_Now 2h ago
Executed in the street in broad daylight by traitors to our nation.
We all saw it (from multiple angles). An execution.
An "immigration" agency 1300 miles away from the southern border. Wearing masks in anticipation of getting away with exactly this.
Given permission, total immunity, by another traitor. And the treasonous party that refuses to reign him in.
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u/Blue-Eyed-Lemon 1h ago
This is a tragedy.
What ICE did to Alex Pretti, 37 year old ICU nurse who works with the VA serving our veterans, was unacceptable. He was already disarmed and on the ground. He was pinned on his stomach and completely surrounded by ICE.
And then they executed him.
They didn’t shoot just once, or twice. Or even three times. They chose to unload into him. His body is just lying there and they keep. on. shooting. him.
Alex’s final action was to help somebody else. That was the kind of man he was. He will be deeply missed.
Rest in Peace, Alex Pretti.
Fuck ICE.
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u/awjeezrickyaknow 4h ago
A nurse who healed Veterans. A true American. The polar opposite of these cowardly Nazis who refuse to show their faces in ICE. Rest in Peace.